I was recently interviewed by Daniel Hanzelka, the founder and creator of the "Make Life Less Taxing Podcast." The following is his introduction to the interview: Most people think the biggest risk in retirement is the market. Gene Bond sees it differently. In this episode of the Make Life Less Taxing Podcast, I sat down with Gene, founder of Bond Financial Group, certified financial fiduciary, and retirement income specialist, for a conversation that goes far beyond charts, percentages, and headlines. Gene’s journey into this work didn’t start with finance. It started with loss. After losing his father at a young age, Gene watched his mother face a financial reality that looked very different than what his father believed he had put in place. That moment shaped a lifelong mission: make sure no family lives with the fear of running out of money. Throughout our conversation, Gene challenges a core assumption many people carry for decades that retirement is about accumulating assets. He explains why income, not account balances, determines whether someone truly feels secure, and why so many retirees unknowingly enter what he calls the retirement red zone without understanding the risks they’re exposed to. We talk about why most people are “driving blind” when it comes to retirement income, how education gaps create unnecessary anxiety, and why clarity, not complexity, is the foundation of peace of mind. But this episode isn’t just technical. It’s deeply human. Gene shares stories of retirees who found freedom they never thought possible, the importance of purpose after work ends, and why legacy isn’t measured by net worth but by the lives you impact, often across generations. One of my favorite parts of the conversation was Gene’s simple acronym: SWAN - Sleep Well At Night. That idea alone reframes what successful planning really looks like. If you’re approaching retirement, already retired, or simply want to think more intentionally about the future you’re building, this episode will challenge how you see money, security, and purpose.